The end of the Roy family era: Fans of the American hit drama series Succession bid the show farewell last week, after four turbulent seasons centered around the conflict over who from the Roy family will take control over media and entertainment empire Waystar RoyCo. The show ended in a way that some describe as painful realism: Not shocking as much as a climax of emotions over the complex fate of the Roy siblings.

Throughout the episodes of the official Succession podcast, tech journalism legend and host Kara Swisher hosted actors, creators, and producers of the show, and even big political and business consultants like former White House Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz, to discuss the events of the show and delve into the characters, the plot, and the twists and turns that Waystar RoyCo undergoes throughout the series.

The finale is a must-listen: For the final two-part episode of the podcast, Swisher speaks with Alexander Skarsgård (the actor playing Lukas Mattson), Jeremy Strong (who playsKendall Roy), and director and executive producer Mark Mylod about the finale. The actors dive deep into the characters they play and the motives that drove them both, while Mylod takes listeners through the tumultuous journey of the making of Succession — from the first table read, to the final showdown in the series finale.

WHERE TO LISTEN- Fans of the series can listen to the podcast’s final two episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and on the official HBO YouTube channel to find out more behind-the-scenes details.

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