{"id":592853,"date":"2019-11-07T04:11:03","date_gmt":"2019-11-07T04:11:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/enterpriseam.com\/egypt\/2019\/11\/07\/my-morning-routine-wael-ziada-founder-and-managing-partner-of-zilla-capital\/"},"modified":"2019-11-07T04:11:03","modified_gmt":"2019-11-07T04:11:03","slug":"my-morning-routine-wael-ziada-founder-and-managing-partner-of-zilla-capital","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/enterpriseam.com\/egypt\/2019\/11\/07\/my-morning-routine-wael-ziada-founder-and-managing-partner-of-zilla-capital\/","title":{"rendered":"My Morning Routine: Wael Ziada, founder and managing partner of Zilla Capital"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a class=\"content-anchor\" id=\"tldr-story-09\"><\/a><b> Wael Ziada<\/b><b>, <\/b><b>founder and managing partner of Zilla Capital<\/b><b>:<\/b> My Morning Routine looks each week at how a successful member of the community starts their day \u2014 and then throws in a couple of random business questions just for fun. Speaking to us this week is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/wael-ziada-6753b0a\/\">Wael Ziada<\/a>, founder and managing partner of Zilla Capital, an Egypt-based activist investing firm.<\/p>\n<p><b>I\u2019m Wael Ziada, and I\u2019m the founder and managing partner of Zilla Capital,<\/b> an activist investing firm. I\u2019m 43 and I\u2019ve worked in finance for almost my entire career. Prior to founding Zilla Capital, I worked as the executive chairman of EFG Hermes Finance, the non-banking financial platform of the group and its current engine of growth.<\/p>\n<p><b>My work is consuming and always full of interesting challenges.<\/b> As Zilla\u2019s managing partner, I spend my day looking for new investments or finding ways to make existing ones better. This involves digging into the needs of the companies we\u2019re invested in and working to restructure them so they operate more effectively. When my week begins, I might have a general idea of how it will unfold, but that can always change. Every week is different from the last.<\/p>\n<p><b>My whole morning routine is centered around coffee.<\/b> It\u2019s what I drink when I wake up, before checking my email. Then I\u2019ll have another cup before getting some exercise. Afterwards I check Enterprise and a few other news websites \u2014 and have yet another cup of coffee. Then, before I know it, I\u2019m running late, so getting myself over to the office happens very quickly.<\/p>\n<p><b>Knowing that my job is not routine is what gets me up in the morning.<\/b> I\u2019m constantly meeting people, discussing ideas, implementation plans or new investments, and I thrive on all this activity. I do try to set aside some time in the middle of the day to have lunch and catch up with the news.<\/p>\n<p><b>I love the TV show <\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0108778\/\"><b>Friends<\/b><\/a><b> and can watch it again and again without getting bored. <\/b>I also recently enjoyed reading <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Sapiens-A-Brief-History-Humankind\/product-reviews\/0062316095\">Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari<\/a>. The book is a vast sweep of human history within the framework of evolutionary biology, looking at how humankind has evolved from the Stone Age right the way up to the 21st century. Harari traces our development and poses huge and complex questions about where we\u2019ve come from and where we\u2019re going.<\/p>\n<p><b>I founded Zilla because I\u2019ve always had a passion for doing things differently<\/b> <b>and moving into areas outside my comfort zone.<\/b> I love looking at new ideas and being part of an organization\u2019s success. Throughout my career, I\u2019ve always had a passion for private equity, but I also used to feel there were ways where it could delve deeper into the structural issues that stop companies from operating as well as they can. A few years ago, I became particularly interested in the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Argentine_debt_restructuring\">Argentine debt crisis<\/a> and restructuring. <b>I ended up reading a lot about the <\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.elliottmgmt.com\/about-elliott\/\"><b>Elliott Management Group<\/b><\/a>, an investment management firm that\u2019s also one of the world\u2019s largest activist funds. I saw that the best way for me to combine my interests was to start my own investment entity, raising funds to invest selectively in areas where we could add value, to bring about a turnaround in the organizations we invested in. So I phoned up some other executives and told them that moving into activist investment was what we should be doing.<\/p>\n<p><b>Activist investment is fundamentally different from all other forms of investment. <\/b>Normally,investors seek out high-performing companies that are able to yield high returns as quickly as possible. We, on the other hand, are actively looking for companies where we as a group can add value through restructuring. Many of the companies we invest in have great brands and considerable potential, but they are trading below where they should be. It might be that they\u2019re providing a really valuable product or service, but their finances need restructuring or they don\u2019t have operational experts.<\/p>\n<p><b>Even very prominent, successful companies can find themselves in unsustainable situations.<\/b> You could have a great management team, but without the corporate governance needed for financial sustainability, your company could turn from a prince into a frog.<\/p>\n<p><b>That\u2019s where we come in.<\/b> We don\u2019t jump in wanting to change the purpose or ethos of a company. We\u2019re looking for areas where we can improve the company\u2019s profitability, to give it a more financially lean structure so it can operate in a more sustainable way. It\u2019s important to us to go into companies where our roles and input will be welcome \u2014 because after all, we\u2019re trying to make the business better and more efficient.<\/p>\n<p><b>Some companies need to be completely restructured, but with others the changes will be much lighter.<\/b> The most dramatic restructuring will involve a complete overhaul of the company at the financial and operational levels \u2014 including management and staff. This obviously involves significant changes. At the other end of the spectrum, the lightest restructuring could involve creating an investor relations department, if the company is doing everything right but doesn\u2019t know how to address the public or its investors. Or it might involve some restructuring of company debt. Then in between those two extremes, you have everything else.<\/p>\n<p><b>We have to be very careful about how we allocate our time to these investments.<\/b> We really work hard with companies to get them on track, but of course this can sometimes take up a vast amount of energy and time. I know now that I would never invest USD 1 bn in a company that was going to take up 50% of my time, no matter how much money I stood to make on the investment.<\/p>\n<p><b>Expansion is on the horizon. <\/b>Currently, Zilla has 3-4 mandates, with an investment of roughly EGP 500 mn, and this is keeping the team very busy. We will soon be significantly expanding our operations: I expect us to be handling an investment of EGP 1 bn and working with six new companies in the very near future.<\/p>\n<p><b>One very common misconception about activist investment is that it\u2019s basically the same as private equity.<\/b> This is really not the case. While a private equity firm might meet with the boards of the companies it\u2019s managing four times a year, our involvement is really much more hands-on. There are days where I\u2019m literally conducting interviews to hire a purchasing manager or an investor relations manager for a company, and others where I\u2019m going to the bank with the company\u2019s CFO to discuss better debt restructuring terms.<\/p>\n<p><b>New investment prospects crop up on a regular basis.<\/b> The more you help the existing companies you\u2019re working with, the more your circle expands and you get introduced to new ones. I hold at least 10-12 meetings every week with new companies. 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