{"id":577242,"date":"2022-11-15T04:00:39","date_gmt":"2022-11-15T04:00:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/enterpriseam.com\/egypt\/2022\/11\/15\/the-enterprise-climate-ceo-poll-ebrds-harry-boyd-carpenter\/"},"modified":"2022-11-15T04:00:39","modified_gmt":"2022-11-15T04:00:39","slug":"the-enterprise-climate-ceo-poll-ebrds-harry-boyd-carpenter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/enterpriseam.com\/egypt\/2022\/11\/15\/the-enterprise-climate-ceo-poll-ebrds-harry-boyd-carpenter\/","title":{"rendered":"The Enterprise Climate CEO Poll: EBRD\u2019s Harry Boyd-Carpenter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a class=\"content-anchor\" id=\"tldr-story-05\"><\/a> <strong>Enterprise Climate CEO Poll- Harry Boyd-Carpenter:<\/strong> With just a few days to go until COP27 winds down in Sharm El Sheikh, Enterprise Climate and EnterpriseAM is continuing its inaugural Climate CEO poll. Our series of interviews with top C-suite execs and business leaders covers key issues being raised at the summit, including climate finance, regulation, and the green economy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Harry Boyd-Carpenter (<\/strong><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/uk.linkedin.com\/in\/harry-boyd-carpenter-81288757\">LinkedIn<\/a><\/strong><strong>) is the managing director of climate strategy and delivery at the London-based European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD),<\/strong> one of the world\u2019s largest multilateral development banks and the organization leading the <a href=\"https:\/\/enterprise.news\/egypt\/en\/news\/story\/58aa142f-c5b9-45ac-82ba-573d06e262a6\">energy pillar<\/a> of Egypt\u2019s Nexus on Water, Food and Energy (NWFE) initiative, which aims to add 10 GW of renewable power generation capacity and wind down 5 GW of gas-fired power plants by 2028. We talked to Boyd-Carpenter about the bank\u2019s role in NWFE, and why the lender is placing importance on developing Egypt\u2019s renewable energy sector.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cThe basic premise of NWFE is that Egypt is a green energy superpower,\u201d <\/strong>Boyd-Carpenter tells us. \u201cIn the world we are going into, anybody who has lots of windy, sunny desert is a superpower in a way that, historically, anybody who had lots of oil and gas was a superpower. The one thing you want in the emerging, decarbonized economy is huge quantities of low-cost renewable electricity, and Egypt is incredibly well positioned to have that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>NWFE is designed to help the country capitalize on that superpower potential<\/strong>, Boyd-Carpenter says. The obstacles to upping renewables capacity include a lack of investment in the national grid, and how to manage the surplus created by existing gas-powered plants, he explains. \u201cIt makes sense for Egypt to start closing those plants because this will result in cheaper electricity, and additional gas that can be used for export,\u201d as well as helping to cut our carbon emissions and conserve water.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cThe next step is to build 10 GW of renewables, for which Egypt will need international support from international partners<\/strong>, which will then be used to build out the transmission network, invest in transmission lines, and battery technology,\u201d Boyd-Carpenter says. The EBRD is committing USD 300 mn in sovereign loans for public assets like the transmission network, and up to USD 1 bn for the renewable projects themselves.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conditions are ideal for private-sector investment: <\/strong>Support from international partners including the US and European countries, combined with the government\u2019s pledge to look at adopting more ambitious renewable targets in an <a href=\"https:\/\/enterprise.news\/egypt\/en\/news\/story\/58aa142f-c5b9-45ac-82ba-573d06e262a6\">agreement on NWFE<\/a> announced at COP, have set the stage for an influx of flows from the private sector, he predicts. \u201cWhat you've got here is you've got everybody coming to the party,\u201d he says. \u201cI think that most of the USD 10 bn in investments needed for this pillar can come from the private sector.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>When it comes to climate finance, balance is key \u2014 and each project demands a tailored approach. <\/strong>Renewable energy \u201ccan largely be financed with private money because it's a highly competitive, well-understood technology,\u201d while adaptation \u201cneeds significant public support, because it's very hard to monetize adaptation benefits.\u201d Green hydrogen projects fall somewhere in between \u2014 they can largely be financed with private money, but need some public support because the product is still not competitive, Boyd-Carpenter says. \u201cYou need a balance, and you need to tailor the financing instrument to the project and the product you're trying to sell.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cYou have to look at the picture holistically,\u201d <\/strong>he adds. \u201cIt's no good setting it up so that multilateral development banks (MDBs) can lend a lot of money to a project if there's no demand for that money or if there's fiscal constraints.\u201d NWFE exemplifies this holistic approach. Public money for the transmission network and to close old plants will create space in the sector to generate new energy with the help of USD 10 bn private money. \u201cIf any one of those components is missing, none of the others will work,\u201d Boyd-Carpenter says.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The lender is eyeing several renewable energy projects in Egypt: <\/strong>EBRD is an investor in Infinity Power and so is looking at their <a href=\"https:\/\/www.weareiph.com\/en\/Projects\">200 MW Ras Ghareb wind farm<\/a>, and at the <a href=\"https:\/\/enterprise.news\/egypt\/en\/news\/story\/031ecccd-f816-4657-ae61-58d9c32a706d\">1.1 GW ACWA Power wind project<\/a>, Boyd-Carpenter says. Financing for the <a href=\"https:\/\/enterprise.news\/egypt\/en\/news\/story\/ce29a6e4-8653-4954-b817-c38ac8a69aa8\">newly announced 28 GW worth of wind projects<\/a> could also be on the table, though no agreements have yet been made since the projects are at a very early stage, Boyd-Carpenter says. \u201cWe financed Lekela\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/enterprise.news\/egypt\/en\/news\/story\/c5c730b4-4705-43f2-bfea-72fc0ba4e2db\">West Bakr wind farm<\/a>, and are involved in Orascom Construction, Engie and Toyota Tsusho\u2019s in-progress <a href=\"https:\/\/enterprise.news\/egypt\/en\/news\/story\/448f4089-1c32-47d2-b37e-2ab97142d101\">500-MW facility<\/a>. People come to us before they come to anyone else. We hope we can make them a good offer.\u201d The lender is also helping the government tender off more of the 350 MW of unutilized capacity at Benban solar park, Boyd-Carpenter tells us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The EBRD will continue to make midstream oil and gas investments but \u201conly where we think it accelerates decarbonization,\u201d<\/strong> Boyd-Carpenter says. \u201cThe obvious cases for that are countries which have a lot of coal, because if you\u2019re going to get off coal, especially if you're using it to generate heat, you\u2019re going to go to gas. There's a middle ground, which is really tricky. We have a whole methodology that helps us think through that problem. We look at things like, is there a low-carbon pathway? Is there a lock-in risk?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>The bank wants to invest EUR 1 bn a year in Egypt but it could do even more if it finds the right project<\/strong>, Boyd-Carpenter says. \u201cWe at EBRD are private-sector led. We don't necessarily say it publicly, but we're opportunistic. Often, we'll finance a project in November that we didn\u2019t even know about in January, because it will come up during the year and we have the flexibility and the agility to jump on it.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Enterprise Climate CEO Poll- Harry Boyd-Carpenter: With just a few days to go until COP27 winds down in Sharm El Sheikh, Enterprise Climate and EnterpriseAM is continuing its inaugural Climate CEO poll. 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